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张雨雨:我是这么处理“开这么贵的药你有没有医德”

2016-10-23 掌上医讯 张雨雨 掌上医讯

Part1:开这么贵的药你有没有医德一大早,就有病人家属气急败坏地冲进医生办公室,手里拿着两张住院清单,那架势,仿佛要暴揍我一顿似的。但考虑我是病人的主管医生,家属并不想一开始就撕破脸。于是强忍着怒火问我:“张医生,你们这里的收费怎么这么贵?我爸爸只住了三天,就用了一万多块,这哪里是住院,简直是烧钱!”我尽量安抚家属的情绪,然后说:“你别着急,我们这是电脑统一记账,然后由医务人员核实后发放的,

Part1:开这么贵的药你有没有医德

一大早,就有病人家属气急败坏地冲进医生办公室,手里拿着两张住院清单,那架势,仿佛要暴揍我一顿似的。

但考虑我是病人的主管医生,家属并不想一开始就撕破脸。

于是强忍着怒火问我:“张医生,你们这里的收费怎么这么贵?我爸爸只住了三天,就用了一万多块,这哪里是住院,简直是烧钱!”

我尽量安抚家属的情绪,然后说:“你别着急,我们这是电脑统一记账,然后由医务人员核实后发放的,若是哪一项你有疑问,可以标出来,如果是我们的问题,我们一定改正!”

“这还要标吗,一天几千块,明摆着乱收费。”家属越说脾气越大。

没办法,我只能接过清单,逐一和其解释:“这是化验费,这是药费,这是输血费……”

三天前,孙姓病人因为上消化道大出血入院,他长期饮酒,直到这次住院才发现有严重的肝硬化,出血量很大,我们抢救了整整一夜,才将其从死亡线上拉回来。

众所周知,在临床上,肝硬化所致的食管静脉曲张破裂出血是一种危重疾病,死亡率特别高,人财两空是很常见的事情。

“什么化验费,输血费我就不管了,我不是胡搅蛮缠的人,但你们这药费,实在高的离谱,说句不好听的话,开这么贵的药,你有没有医德!”家属咄咄逼人。

这触及到了我的底线。

什么叫开这么贵的药?每一种药,清单上如实记录,肝硬化所致的食管静脉曲张破裂出血,病人一进来,我们就要告病危,护肝药,护胃药,止血药,降低门脉压力的药物,综合起来,确实每一天都是一笔不菲数字。

这可不像平时得个小感冒,到外面买点中成药,几块钱一包就能解决问题。

要说用药标准,我们可严格按照指南上的诊疗方案来执行,这其中的任何一种药,都不是乱用啊,如果单用开的药贵不贵来衡量,那的确有失公允。

Part2:什么样的病开什么样的药


两周前,我在看门诊的时候,同样是一个肝硬化的病人找到我,但是他没有出现上消化道出血,肝性脑病这些并发症,只是腹部有点胀,双下肢有水肿。

我判断他有腹腔积液,但是考虑一般情况还算可以。

我为其开了两种药,反复叮嘱如何服用,什么时候停药和复查。

这两种药,一共才一块多钱。

这名肝硬化的病人一年要住好几次院,每一次住院都要用掉很多钱,他从来没想到,这一次看病只花了一块多钱,当然感动地一把握住我的手,连连夸我是有良心的好医生。

两件事,却是完全不同的结果,究竟是谁的错?

随着医患关系越来越恶劣,病人和家属来医院就诊的时候,往往戴着有色眼镜来看待医生,总觉得医生一旦开药,里面总有点灰色收入。

不能保证所有的医生都严格按照行为准则来规范自己,但我相信,大多数医生,还是会根据病情需要,开具合理的药物。

但前提的是,一切从病人出发。

有一些基本药物,比如地高辛,美托洛尔,降压药,降糖药,的确是不贵的,我管过很多高血压糖尿病的患者,合理的治疗方案除了药物还有饮食以及运动指导,他们中的很多人,每个月花一两百块钱就可以很好地控制病情,如果有特殊门诊,几乎不用出钱。

一些病情平稳的患者,医生除了开具基本药物之外,不会再开具任何与病无关的药物。

但是同一种疾病,也存在用药不同,收费不同的情况。

比如类风湿性关节炎,病人要是只用点激素,免疫抑制剂控制病情,是花不了很多钱的,但你若是使用生物制剂,比如英夫利昔单抗,那一支可就要五千多块。

很多肿瘤的病人更是如此,有的肿瘤病人处于早期,手术成功后不需要做放化疗,当然不用花太多钱,但有的病人情况复杂,需要长期放化疗,或是口服抗肿瘤分子靶向药物,那药费更是高的吓人,众所周知,靶向药物,比如吉非替尼,贝伐单抗等,全部是进口,各种关税下来,到病人手里的时候,价钱往往翻了很多倍。

Part3:面对高额医药费医生能做什么

开便宜药就是好医生,开贵药就是没有医德,这样的形容片面且不公,身为医生,我能体谅病人和家属的心情,更多的病人,家庭往往是不富裕的,即便有点积蓄,但病来如山倒,很快也会功亏一篑。

高额的医药费在很多医院都存在,病人看不起病,成了这个时代越来越强烈的呼声。

面对高额的医药费,医生能做什么?

举一个很简单的例子,英夫利昔单抗是一种治疗类风湿性关节炎的有效药物,但费用太贵,很多病人用不起,在大多数医院,这种药物需要自费,医保不报销。

我们医院风湿免疫科的主任为了能让病人获益,跑断了腿,到医保部门,终于为一部分病人争取到了报销一半,有了报销,更多的病人就能看起病,就能远离疾病的折磨。

还有原来不能报销的抗肿瘤分子靶向药物,经过很多医务人员以及非医务人员的努力,现在能够报销,这同样为很多病人带来了福音。

有人常常用糟糕来形容国内医疗,其实这是夸大其词,相比世界上其他国家的医务工作者,中国医生更拼命更努力,他们的劳动量最大,收入却是最低的。

纵然质疑不断,暴力不断,但我们一直没有放弃。

健康所系,性命相托。我们牢记进入医学院的誓言,做好本职工作就是对这个社会最大的贡献,我常常对身边的人说,医生开药,与费用无关,对得起良心就好。

有的病不需要吃药,保持健康的生活方式即可,有的病需要吃药,但可以花最少的钱就可以看好病,还有的病,确实需要花钱,而且花了钱不一定能治好,医学就是这么复杂,但复杂之外,无论医生还是病人,相信除了冰冷的药液,他们还需要相互给予信任和温暖。

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    看病贵到底是什么原因

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    什么时候全民医疗免费了,医德就一下子好了

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    2016-10-24 wangyuwangyu

    舆论一边倒,医德就是看病不花钱。

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