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西医开价5万宣战号脉验孕 中医出20万应战

2014-10-16 吴柳锋 华西都市报

  本组稿件采写华西都市报记者吴柳锋综合《新京报》摄影吕甲 关于中西医的争论由来已久。而近日,有人则把“战火”烧到了中医诊脉验孕这个话题上,这个人就是微博名人、北京积水潭烧伤科医师“烧伤超人阿宝”(以下简称为“阿宝”)。此前,他曾公开表示“中医是伪科学”。这次,阿宝愿出5万奖金发起挑战,以随机盲法测中医脉诊准确率是否能超80%,同时欢迎“爱好科学的土豪”增加

  本组稿件采写华西都市报记者吴柳锋综合《新京报》摄影吕甲

关于中西医的争论由来已久。而近日,有人则把“战火”烧到了中医诊脉验孕这个话题上,这个人就是微博名人、北京积水潭烧伤科医师“烧伤超人阿宝”(以下简称为“阿宝”)。此前,他曾公开表示“中医是伪科学”。这次,阿宝愿出5万奖金发起挑战,以随机盲法测中医脉诊准确率是否能超80%,同时欢迎“爱好科学的土豪”增加奖金。目前,“挑战赛”奖金已在部分网友的赞助下追加到了10万元。

阿宝发出挑战不久,北京中医药大学教师杨桢应战。双方正在商量挑战的具体方案,初定由32名育龄妇女协助参与测试,杨桢与参试者之间用布帘遮挡,仅根据诊脉结果来判断参试者怀孕情况。而在昨日,成都老中医吕即来也通过微博报名参加。

守擂

随机盲测

准确率超80%就算胜

北京积水潭烧伤科医师“阿宝”

近日,“烧伤超人阿宝”就中医能否“脉诊验孕”发起挑战,称愿出奖金5万,以随机盲测中医脉诊准确率是否能超80%。此后,北京中医药大学教师杨桢应战。

挑战赛资金已解决

“烧伤超人阿宝”通过微博发表针对“脉诊验孕”声明称,目前脉诊验孕一事运作顺利,资金问题已解决,专业的CRO机构(合同研究组织)已就位,将以科学方法、严谨的态度和最大的诚意来运作此事。阿宝说,他本人极其希望此事能够做成,因为无论结果如何,都将具有极大的意义。

阿宝表示,由于近期工作比较忙碌,他已将“挑战赛”事宜全权委托给媒体人王志安。据王志安介绍,按照项目的运行设置要求,需要至少二三十万元的花费,其中包含项目的管理、统计、生成报告,受试者必要体检、孕检等费用。这笔费用已得到“小伙伴”的支持和赞助。

实验方案双方存分歧

关于为何接受成为此次“挑战赛”的代理人、运作者,王志安坦言,他希望通过科学合理的方案设计,让这场“擂台赛”不同于微博上“各说各话”式吵架,而是寻找一个双方能够达成共识的方式,去检验最终的结果。由于双方就“伦理”等实验中涉及的问题未达成一致,挑战赛尚无时间表。

攻擂

成都老中医

吕即来

我愿意出20万作为奖金,摆一个中西医擂台赛。“不但要验孕,还要挑战通过诊脉来判断还有几天来月经。”

北京中医药大学

杨桢

不仅中国自古以来有切脉验孕的说法,从西医角度看,由于孕妇的血液循环受到妊娠的影响,理论上也可能出现脉搏的变化。

出20万奖金再摆擂台 挑战多种病症

昨日,成都老中医吕即来也通过微博报名参加。在微博上,他给阿宝的委托人王志安发信息称:“我是成都吕即来……在中医临床工作已22年,目前是中医执业医师,看到中医验孕的信息,决定参加应战。”此外,吕即来还说,“不但要验孕,还要挑战通过诊脉来判断还有几天来月经”。

奖金加码

20万挑战多个西医科目

吕即来是在11日晚上看到了脉诊验孕的消息,立即就在中医圈子里讨论此事。一位医生告诉记者,以往,遇到这种事,他都会一笑了之,但这次竟然在全国闹得沸沸扬扬,“真当中医没人了。”另一位成都中医则笑言,愿出50万赌中医能赢。

当晚,吕即来决定在成都开展一场更大、更全面的中西医较量后,得到了众多同行的支持,包括资金支持。“有了他们的支持,加上我自己筹钱,我愿意出20万作为奖金。”

下一步,他们就会征集癌症、肿瘤、乙肝、高血压、类风湿等病种的患者,双方诊治前,会找权威医院出具诊断报告。“这样就能得出治愈率、有效率、显效率三个方面的量化指标,谁赢谁输一目了然。”吕即来说,这大概需要3到6个月时间。

写书驳斥

每个学科都不是完美的

事实上,面对有人质疑中医,吕即来已不是第一次出来反驳。早在2006年,当时“中医是伪科学”、“取消中医”的声音不绝于耳。深受刺激的他想到用写书的方式来驳斥这些言论,三年后,一本多达600页左右的医学论被出版。

提到屡屡被人攻击的中医,吕即来说,每个学科都不是完美的,都有缺点,但不能因为一个缺点就否定一个传承了上千年的学科。他希望通过此次事件,能让更多人能更为理性的看待中医和西医。截至记者发稿,吕即来还未收到王志安的回复。

对话

不再一笑了之 应战是为中医说句话

华西都市报:为什么要加入挑战?吕即来:以往在论坛上看到,我也会一笑了之。但这次看到媒体说只有一个中医迎战,我就被刺激了,必须要有中医的声音。况且,中医也需要有较真的人。

华西都市报:一年前,你还在为诊所的租金涨价而发愁,如今出20万设擂台,钱哪里来?为什么要这样做?

吕即来:我也奇怪了,好多中医看到这个消息后不出声,而当听说我要回应时,又纷纷支持我。这些钱一部分是他们想赞助的,即便不赞助,我也会自己筹钱。况且,我们中医肯定不会输,说这话不是自大。

华西都市报:不怕有人说你是在炒作?

吕即来:他(阿宝)是大V,要说炒作,是他们在炒作才对,我只是出来应战,出钱摆擂台,这都是为我们这个行业做的事,我能得到什么好处?去北京的机票我都自己买。

擂台赛“卡”在“伦理”环节

据了解,受阿宝委托后,王志安方面曾制定了切脉验孕“1.0方案”。随后,杨桢通过长微博发表“备忘录”对方案作出多处修改。杨桢提出,实验方案须符合伦理规则,实验方案和参试者知情同意书等,签署之前应该获得本地医学实验管理当局的伦理委员会批准。此外公开全过程的直播方案也须获得伦理委员会批准。王志安介绍,他们已和伦理委员会进行了初步接洽,但对方表示只接受正规临床实验的审批。擂台赛目前也“卡”在了这一环节。

焦点①

中医称“孕脉”西医理论可解

通过脉搏判定怀孕的依据是什么?“孕妇在静息状态下静脉的收缩、动脉的舒缓和每搏量的增加。这样就构成滑脉。”杨桢表示,不仅中国自古以来有切脉验孕的说法,从西医角度看,由于孕妇的血液循环受到妊娠的影响,理论上也可能出现脉搏的变化,并可借助血液动力学的相关指标,建立未孕、妊娠不同时期有显著差异的生理指标体系。脉诊的精确度有多高?杨桢也坦承,会有一些其他因素导致脉象达到相应的表现,因此需要排除假阳性。

焦点②

院士曾质疑“脉诊验男女”

老太医凝神把脉后称“娘娘有喜了”,曾是许多古装片中的桥段。有网友留言表示,期待阿宝和杨桢之间的“脉诊验孕”擂台赛,能成为中医验孕能力的一管“试剂”。据媒体报道,2007年,时任科技部副部长的尚勇在罗马召开的“中欧中医中药大会开幕式”上致辞说,“中医不但能够通过脉搏诊断妇女是否怀孕,而且能判断男女”。随后,以“打假”闻名的中科院院士何祚庥通过博客发表公开信,质疑科技部副部长尚勇的说法。在何祚庥的质疑中,主要包括是否具备足够的实验事例、实验进程中有无对照组、有无双盲实验、判断精度有多大等等。

焦点③

中医验孕并非都靠“脉诊”

近年来,中医“脉诊验孕”错误的案例也不断见诸媒体。有媒体报道,沈阳一怀孕女子也曾被老中医误诊为“气血两亏”,开了36袋中药,后因腹腔大出血险些丧命。记者了解到,目前在很多中医院,大夫并不是完全依靠把脉来确定是否怀孕。一些中医院人士表示,对于怀孕的确诊除了脉诊之外,目前依然需要借助验尿等检测手段。

近年“中西医之争”

  ●龙胆泻肝丸 2003年,新华社的报道《龙胆泻肝丸——清火良药还是“致病”根源》称多名患者服用同仁堂“龙胆泻肝丸”致罹患尿毒症。该报道引发对中药安全性的质疑,并作为中西医争论的一个焦点。

  ●经络说 “打假专家”方舟子2007年曾撰文称“经络并不存在”,并以解剖学等原理试证经络理论的荒谬,一时引发热议。

  ●打通任督二脉 2012年,甘肃省卫生厅官网挂出“甘肃省医务人员练真气 40余人打通任督二脉”的消息。有媒体报道称,有学员讲述自己培训后的感受“第四天时脑中出现水开声”,被网友调侃。

  ●针灸麻醉法 近年来,对于中医“针灸麻醉法”的质疑时常出现。争议较大、转载较高的网文如《“针灸麻醉”骗局现形记》等。(原标题:“恭喜娘娘是喜脉”,太医其实不靠谱?西医开价5万宣战号脉验孕 成都中医出20万应战)

相关阅读:杨桢:我与西医“脉诊验孕”约战详情及研究方案

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    2016-04-17 忠诚向上

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    2016-04-17 忠诚向上

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    2016-04-17 忠诚向上

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    2016-04-17 忠诚向上

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    2016-04-17 忠诚向上

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    2016-04-17 忠诚向上

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    2016-04-17 忠诚向上

    发展传统医药事业

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    2015-01-03 匿名用户

    对于这件事情,我有我自己的看法:1、就算挑战失败,也不能证明中医就是伪科学。2、中医本就是经验科学,是千年来人体试验的结果。3、确实有些人利用中医,在行不法之事。4、就炒作的验孕的这件事情,我相信脉诊是能验孕的。但是要通过脉诊的方式科学地验孕,需要对这位妇女的脉象有个系统的掌握这也是科学的统计。5、应战的中医医生还是退出来吧,别跟不懂科学的孩子谈科学。

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