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公立医院让患者去民营医院检查 是全面托管关系?

2017-05-09 恒巴特 管昕 央广网

宁夏的多位患者向中国之声反映称,他们专门到宁夏医科大学总医院看病,大夫却开单子让他们去一家民营医院做检查,还说两家医院是全面的“依托关系”。


近日,宁夏的多位患者向中国之声反映称,他们专门到宁夏医科大学总医院看病,大夫却开单子让他们去一家民营医院做检查,还说两家医院是全面的“依托关系”。所谓的全面依托是什么概念?公立医院看病,民营医院检查,是否值得信赖?

宁夏银川市民杨先生,5月5日带孩子去宁夏医科大学总医院看病检查,医生却开单子,让他们去一家叫“慈济医院”的民营医院做检查,这让杨先生有些不解。“我当时挂了儿科的门诊,排了一个小时进诊室就诊,诊室里面是个女医生,她问了一下病情,然后给我开了个条子,让我到一个叫‘慈济医院’检查微量元素,检查完了再过来。”

宁夏医科大学总医院,原宁夏医科大学附属医院,是当地权威的综合性三甲医院。杨先生说,他到这家医院,看重的就是医院的综合实力。而大夫让他去的另一家民营医院,他之前都没有听说过。

记者了解到,“慈济医院”是一家民营医院,宣称是一所全面依托宁夏医科大学总医院资源优势为特色的综合性医院。门诊专家也全是来自宁医大的权威专家。但是杨先生原先在宁医大总医院已经有挂号、排队等候,想到又要重新挂号、排队、检查比较麻烦。这不仅让他觉得来回折腾,也会浪费时间,于是决定不去检查。大夫还跟他强调,“那个医院(慈济医院)也是我们的,我们的大夫都在那边,到那边挂个号,然后到6楼做检查。”

来自甘肃的程女士也遇到了这样的情况。去年春天,她从甘肃到宁医大总院看皮肤科,医生检查完,让她去“慈济医院”取药。

记者采访到多位曾到宁夏医科大学总医院看病的患者,他们都表示遇到过类似让他们到慈济医院做检查、治疗、住院的情况,他们也搞不清楚到底为什么,只是觉得有点不正常。



记者就此联系了宁夏12320卫生计生热线了解情况。工作人员回复记者称,宁医大总院与慈济医院是托管关系,慈济医院所有的门诊医生,都来自宁医大总院的专家。

但对于这样的全面依托关系是否通过相关部门的审批,该工作人员无法给出确切答案。

宁夏医科大学总医院的官网2016年1月发布消息称,慈济医院由宁医大总院全面托管。但记者联系到宁夏医科大学总医院集团办公室,工作人员却表示,宁医大总院和慈济医院之间实际上并不存在依托关系,“我们医院集团有托管模式,有技术合作模式,还有专门合作模式,但它(慈济医院)不是我们医院集团的会员单位。”

而医院的医务处的工作人员也告诉我们,总院和慈济医院没有签订托管协议,只是总院的很多医务人员在慈济医院多点执业。两家医院到底是怎样的合作关系?宁夏医科大学总医院医务处工作人员没有给出明确答案。

患者杨先生认为,不管两家医院是怎样的合作关系,给患者带来的,不是便利而是麻烦,“我要重新挂号,另外我还要多跑路,时间上我还要耽搁,来回往返我算了一下,至少得一个小时,这样的话我原先在附属医院也已经排队检查完了。”

中国卫生法学会理事郑雪倩认为,医院之间相互托管是可以的,但是原因和目的得准确。

她认为如果患者在一家医院已把相关手续全部办完,又转到其他医院,重新挂号、重新排队,是不太合适的。现在推行的医联体也好,还有这种托管模式也好,都是为了更好的方便患者,而不是给患者增加更多的麻烦。

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    2017-05-14 医鸣惊人

    学习了

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    2017-05-10 spoonycyy
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    2017-05-09 Arthur M

    奇异

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    2017-05-09 cqykthl

    上有政策,下有对策啊!政府不加大投资,医改真是竹篮打水

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    2017-05-09 139****5926

    好文章,学习了,

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    2017-05-09 明月清辉

    谢谢分享,学习了

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