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三甲医院亮出“新武器”严防药代

2017-03-11 佚名 赛柏蓝

三甲医院给药代划禁区:住院部、门诊部、医技科室不能去!只能在工作时间去医院指定的地点。严密监控用量排前10名的药品,发现增量异常要查找原因!


三甲医院给药代划禁区:住院部、门诊部、医技科室不能去!只能在工作时间去医院指定的地点。严密监控用量排前10名的药品,发现增量异常要查找原因!

药企不听话,停药!

三甲医院给药企 “立规矩”,违者停药

3月9日,广西自治区江滨医院举行药品器械供应商廉洁约谈会。会上,院长杨建荣代表医院与70多位药品、器械供应商进行了廉洁谈话,并签署廉洁购销协议。

要求药品供应商:不得以回扣、宴请等方式“公关”院方人员,学术活动旅游食宿不得超标:销售代表不得私自到住院部、门诊部、医技科室等推销医药器械产品,只能在工作时间内到医院指定的地点联系商谈;

医院加强动态监测,对用量排前10名的药品加强监督力度,发生异常增加要查找原因;药企药商如果违反协议,一经发现,医院将终止购销合同,并向有关卫生计生行政部门报告。

其网站显示,广西壮族自治区江滨医院暨广西壮族自治区第三人民医院,成立至今已有60余年的历史。是集医疗、康复、科研、教学于一体的国家三级甲等医院。

78个摄像头监控、严禁统方等各种限制,作用不大

都说是药品回扣是医生的“灰色收入”,这是指不合法。事实上医生收入的构成,天下尽知——大部分是来自产品的回扣,如果从这个层面来说,医生的这点事倒是“明明白白”。

医院把药企、药商拉过来开廉洁约谈会并不罕见,近年来更为密集,各种禁令也是招招在要害。普遍不许商业统方;河南某医院告诉药企:医院有78个摄像头24小时监督大家言行;严禁药代进医疗场所等等。

这是场拉锯战,你有张良计、我有过墙梯。企业应对的方法也很多,不让统方、可以查医生的电脑;监控摄像头多、药代可以伪装;不让进医院、可以家访;不让给医生回扣、给医生亲属好处也可以。总之,各种声势浩大的禁令,对于药企在医院推广起到的限制,目前看来收效不算太大。

政府、医院、医生、患者共赢,输家是部分药企

医改把院内营销赶进了死胡同。

政策设计的完美模式是:淘汰掉一部分药企和大部分药商,留下的负责生产、送货;最好是药企直接把货送进医院、没有中间商赚差价;医院3个月结款;扒掉药品部分利润,把以往的灰色收入补贴医院、医生成为阳光收入。所以,不容许药代贿赂医生。

从头捋一遍,总结下这个多方共赢的计划:政府没花太多钱;医院、医生收入没减少;药企药商数量少了,用销量保证利润;最后药价降了、百姓高兴。有人说,这四个人打麻将都赢钱的荒唐逻辑,但是也得注意到输家,其实是被淘汰的那些企业。

让我们看看现在计划的实施进度,部分大品种新医保受限;医生薪酬改革规划已经出台;医院二次议价拿到了想要的;医事诊疗费有些省份已经提价。医院没问题了,输家是药企!

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    2017-03-14 天涯183

    非常好的文章

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    2017-03-13 陈吴1239
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    2017-03-13 天涯183

    很好的文章

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    2017-03-12 明月清辉

    谢谢分享,学习了

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    阅读了谢谢分享

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    2017-03-11 1e15b6fem30(暂无匿称)

    很好的学习资料,谢谢了。

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